Feb 15th, 2013 - Rebuttal to D Feinstein's computer generated response.



From Senator Feinstein: Thank you for contacting me to share your opposition to assault weapons legislation. I respect your opinion on this important issue and welcome the opportunity to provide my point of view.
You still think this about ‘views’ or ‘opinions’.  Of that you are absolutely positively mistaken.  Because, yours is just that too, correct? You have a view. I have a view.  We all have a view.  Frankly, views and opinions do not matter.  This is about the Constitution.  Please try to stay on subject.


From Senator Feinstein:  Mass shootings are a serious problem…

You obviously don’t know your facts.  Let me help you:


  • July 26th, 1764 – Enoch Brown School Massacre.  Teacher and 10 children dead by: tomahawk.  Still legal.
  • Jan 21, 1882 – Student stabs Robert Bailey to death with a knife.  Knives: still legal.
  • Aug 27, 1886 – Student attempts to stone teacher, scuffle ensues, teacher is fatally stabbed.
  • Jan 26, 1899 – student slashes teachers throat with knife.
  • Sept 12, 1905 – Student fatally stabs teacher.
  • May 18th, 1927 – Bath School Disaster.  Andrew Kehoe sets off explosions.  Kills wife, then bombs school kills around 50 and then eventually blows himself up.  Explosives.  Still legal.
  • May 28, 1943 – Brownsville PA – student stabs another student to death.
  • May 9, 1944 – Nine year old Margaret Patton stabbed to death by fellow students.  Knives. Still legal.
  • June 6, 1047 – student stabs another student to death.
  • April 17, 1956 – a younger student stabs to death an older student.
  • Sept 15, 1959 – Poe Elementary – Paul Orgeron sets of explosives and kills 6.  Explosives. Still legal.
  • Feb 19, 1960 – Karen A Smith, stabbed to death by a slightly older 14 year old.
  • Sept 26, 1967 – Dayton Ohio – football coach stabbed to death by drop out student.

Outside the US:

  • June 11, 1964 – Walter Seifert converts an insecticide sprayer to a flame thrown, and carrying a homemade mace kills 11.  His tools not even possible to identify as weapons until used, therefore: legal.
  • May 8, 1970 – Israel.  School bus attacked with rocket propelled grenade.  12 dead
  • June 3, 1982 – Hong Kong 5 dead by stabbing.  

It is true that most school attacks have occurred with firearms, but 99% of them have been handguns.  Which none of your bills outlaw.  In some case, like the May 6, 1925 Vilnius Poland attack, where two students used handguns and hand grenades to carry out their violence.  

After you ban the guns, will you go after knives?  When will your fear based banality end?

Of course the MOST grizzly of all school massacres are these:


  • 170 dead in Hue, Vietnam.  Where the Viet Cong (the government) killed 170 high school students.
  • 34 dead in Sri Lanka, when the Sri Lankan Air force (the government) bombed a school
  • 67 dead.  Two students set fire to the school in Kenya, because the final exam results were annulled and payment was demanded (sounds like government bureaucratic red tape to me).
  • 46 dead in Egypt when the Israeli air force (the government) bombed a school.
  • 29 dead Israel, when DFLP militants (the anti-government) took hostages and then methodically executed them.
  • 89 dead Angola, a Mig-21 pilot (the government) bombs a school.
  • 386+ dead Ossetia, pro-Chechen rebels (the new-government) systematically exterminate hostages Sept 1, 2004

And what of war? The actual intentional destruction of people in opposition to the current government.  How many millions have been murdered in the Killing fields, the Nazi occupation and the other systematic evils of government think.  How many have children have been murdered by pilot-less drone strikes? Some estimates put that number as high as ten thousand. You want to worry about the butcher bill, you should worry about the pound of flesh the gods are going to demand from the US government when the bill comes due.

Seems to me that the number of murdered children by governments far outweighs over one hundred years of individuals going nuts and killing each other and that we have much more to fear from the government than we do from each other.

From Senator Feinstein: I recognize that the Second Amendment…

The supreme court has as much authority as you, because, in the end, you all work for us.  We are not servants to your ideals (your views or opinions as you put it earlier) nor are we subjects of the Judges opinions when it comes to the Constitution.  They are wrong.  The Constitution says shall not be infringed for a reason.  And the only reason the Supreme Court put such soft language in their brief was to ensure that the established ATF controlled legislation - disallowing for grenades and cannons and tanks and machine guns – would stand.  If you’d read your history you’d know that in US vs. Miller, the US Attorneys argued the OPPOSITE position, where they believed that the 2nd only protected military style weapons.   

This is why We the People do not allow you to debate our rights.  This is not a debate. They are not yours to define.  They are no one's to define.  The only way the definition that stands can be changed is by Constitutional Amendment.  Stop trying to enforce your opinion on others and respect the system that we created.

You are either in contempt for the Constitution or in Contempt for the contemporary fear based transitory mutable notions of the your own ideas.  

Frankly, I choose to protect the Constitution.  Because it protects 300 million people and gives all of them the right to feel safe while in malls, and shops, and movies against a government ‘accidentally’ dropping bombs on them.

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